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McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:10 Uhr
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Jetzt gehen die Gerüchte rum das Novo Abivax übernehmen könnte
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:30 Uhr
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With today $NVO failure in IL6 ab trial in HFpEF .. recall that novo still has GLP1 with the class wild success in cardiac disorders. See below Patrick Elinor MD statement. Novo just needs to own a top GLP1 class molecule to succeed long term. $LLy also reported high level of efficacy of TZP in HFpEF
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:38 Uhr
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I’m a cardiologist. Today cardiologists everywhere were humbled by this trial. The trial is Lp(a)HORIZON. Pelacarsen, a monthly antisense injection from Novartis and Ionis, was given to 8,323 patients who already had heart disease plus genetically high lipoprotein(a). These were not untreated people. They were on modern guideline therapy—high-intensity statins, blood-pressure control, antiplatelets. The drug did its job: it slashed Lp(a) levels by roughly 70–80%, the same drop we saw in earlier studies. The thing it was supposed to prevent did not move. Cardiovascular death, heart attack, stroke, and urgent stents or bypasses were no lower than placebo. The miss held even in the sicker subgroup whose Lp(a) started above 90 mg/dL. That is why the field is in shock. For a decade we treated this as settled biology. Lp(a) is 80–90% genetic. One in five adults carry high levels. Diet and gym do almost nothing. Observational studies and Mendelian randomization kept saying the same thing: higher lifetime Lp(a) means more heart attacks, more strokes, more aortic stenosis. Phase 2 looked like a home run—an 80% reduction with a simple monthly shot. We told ourselves this was the missing piece for the patient who already has perfect LDL, perfect blood pressure, doesn’t smoke, and still has events. Many of us expected it to be as important as the arrival of statins. Companies spent years educating the entire cardiology community that we finally had a target we could actually hit. We were wrong about the simple version of the story. A lifetime of high Lp(a) from birth is not the same experiment as turning the number down for a few years after the arteries are already damaged and every other risk factor is already optimized. Residual risk from Lp(a) may simply be smaller once LDL is already in the 40s. Eighty percent lower may still leave too much particle in people who started very high. The next drugs (siRNAs) go deeper and last longer; this was the first-generation ASO. Benefit, if it exists, might live in younger patients, primary prevention, or extreme levels rather than this secondary-prevention population. Or the effect on existing plaque and thrombosis is slower and smaller than the genetics made us believe. We will get the full event curves, actual achieved levels, and every subgroup later this year. Other outcome trials with more potent agents are still running. The Lp(a) chapter is not closed. But the version we all believed—“lower this inherited number and events will follow in already-treated patients”—just failed its first large, hard test. Measure Lp(a) once. Treat everything else we can actually change as if it still matters. Because today we learned, again, that a beautiful lab change is not the same thing as fewer funerals. Science is supposed to surprise us. This one did.
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:38 Uhr
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I’m a cardiologist. Today cardiologists everywhere were humbled by this trial. The trial is Lp(a)HORIZON. Pelacarsen, a monthly antisense injection from Novartis and Ionis, was given to 8,323 patients who already had heart disease plus genetically high lipoprotein(a). These were not untreated people. They were on modern guideline therapy—high-intensity statins, blood-pressure control, antiplatelets. The drug did its job: it slashed Lp(a) levels by roughly 70–80%, the same drop we saw in earlier studies. The thing it was supposed to prevent did not move. Cardiovascular death, heart attack, stroke, and urgent stents or bypasses were no lower than placebo. The miss held even in the sicker subgroup whose Lp(a) started above 90 mg/dL. That is why the field is in shock. For a decade we treated this as settled biology. Lp(a) is 80–90% genetic. One in five adults carry high levels. Diet and gym do almost nothing. Observational studies and Mendelian randomization kept saying the same thing: higher lifetime Lp(a) means more heart attacks, more strokes, more aortic stenosis. Phase 2 looked like a home run—an 80% reduction with a simple monthly shot. We told ourselves this was the missing piece for the patient who already has perfect LDL, perfect blood pressure, doesn’t smoke, and still has events. Many of us expected it to be as important as the arrival of statins. Companies spent years educating the entire cardiology community that we finally had a target we could actually hit. We were wrong about the simple version of the story. A lifetime of high Lp(a) from birth is not the same experiment as turning the number down for a few years after the arteries are already damaged and every other risk factor is already optimized. Residual risk from Lp(a) may simply be smaller once LDL is already in the 40s. Eighty percent lower may still leave too much particle in people who started very high. The next drugs (siRNAs) go deeper and last longer; this was the first-generation ASO. Benefit, if it exists, might live in younger patients, primary prevention, or extreme levels rather than this secondary-prevention population. Or the effect on existing plaque and thrombosis is slower and smaller than the genetics made us believe. We will get the full event curves, actual achieved levels, and every subgroup later this year. Other outcome trials with more potent agents are still running. The Lp(a) chapter is not closed. But the version we all believed—“lower this inherited number and events will follow in already-treated patients”—just failed its first large, hard test. Measure Lp(a) once. Treat everything else we can actually change as if it still matters. Because today we learned, again, that a beautiful lab change is not the same thing as fewer funerals. Science is supposed to surprise us. This one did.

Auslöser für das Erbeben gestern die Novartis Studie die ihren Endpunkt verfehlt hat.
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:53 Uhr
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Wenn GLP-1/Incretine nicht nur Gewicht reduzieren und Diabetes behandeln, sondern zusätzlich Herzinsuffizienz, kardiovaskuläre Ereignisse usw. positiv beeinflussen, wird der wirtschaftliche Wert eines führenden Moleküls sehr viel größer. Kurz übersetzt, Semaglutide und Tirzepatide und andere in der Klasse werden durch die Misserfolge wertvoller, da sie nachweislich die Anzahl der Cardiovaskulären Events verringern.
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 23:00 Uhr
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Another major shock for cardiovascular research. HERMES: one of the largest and most ambitious HFpEF trials ever undertaken, testing IL-6 inhibition has just been terminated. This is more than another negative trial. After the failures of Cardio-TTR transform and HORIZON all occuring this week, It raises fundamental questions about how we discover and develop Cardiovascular drugs. How we select biological targets, and translate mechanistic signals into therapeutic strategies. I’ll share more soon on what I think this means and most importantly what may need to change in the field.
AMK2020
AMK2020, Samstag 21:17 Uhr
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DczOaw8JxbC/?stkn=bDdoN2dxNDc1ZWZq
csl1234
csl1234, Samstag 17:27 Uhr
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Wenn man mal überlegt was die Analysten in ihren Modellen hatten, niemand hat damit gerechnet und der weltweite Rollout ist gerade erst in den Kinderschuhen

Was Goldman aktuell so rechnet: (Quelle siehe unten) Für 2030 erwarten die Goldman-Analysten einen weltweiten Umsatz mit Abnehmpillen von rund 46 Mrd. $, wovon 48% auf Foundayo und 38% auf Wegovy entfallen sollen: Tabletten und Spritzen sprechen diverse Zielgruppen an. Grundsätzlich dürften Tabletten künftig eine wichtige Ergänzung zu den injizierbaren Schlankmacherpräparaten sein. Die Analysten von Goldman Sachs schätzen, dass orale Therapien bis 2030 rund 40% des Marktes ausmachen werden, während injizierbare Therapien auf knapp 60% kommen dürften. *** https://themarket.ch/unternehmen/novo-nordisk-zu-viele-faktoren-sprechen-gegen-einen-baldigen-turnaround-ld.17608
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 14:15 Uhr
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Wenn man mal überlegt was die Analysten in ihren Modellen hatten, niemand hat damit gerechnet und der weltweite Rollout ist gerade erst in den Kinderschuhen
McLovin09
McLovin09, Samstag 14:14 Uhr
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Agree on the capture adjusted math and I find the interesting part to be what 17% means if we look at it on a doubling ladder. Foundayo needs 2.5 full doublings to reach Wegovy pill's current 283k (capture adjusted). Foundayo completed doublings: 5 => 10k in 2 weeks. 10 => 20k in 5. 20 => 40k in 10 (IQVIA). Each ladder step takes around twice as long as the last. With Foundayo's own doubling pattern, it takes more than two years to reach where the Wegovy pill sits today, even if Wegovy pill never grows again. $NVO $LLY
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fischiii, Samstag 7:26 Uhr
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Wer auf andere hört, der sollte in erster Linie sich selbst hinterfragen und nicht die Schuld bei anderen suchen…

Endlich mal ein sinnvoller Beitrag 👌 gebe ich dir vollkommen recht ( schließe mich da auch ein )
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fischiii, Samstag 7:25 Uhr
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Bei 50€+ werde ich dich wieder daran erinnern.😉

Dein Wort in Gottes Ohren, hoffe aber nicht erst 2029
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fischiii, Samstag 7:24 Uhr
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Sagt der Börsen Guru! Du bist echt nen Kunde!

Wieso börsenguru? Gebe ich euch hier gefährliches Halbwissen mit auf den Weg ? wie kommst du darauf ?
McLovin09
McLovin09, Freitag 21:27 Uhr
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Die phase erinnert min an Anfang November - ende Dezember vom letzten Jahr, ist der CMD der trigger für eine neue Rally oder bleibt der Kurs auch danach noch im Keller
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Mogul2712, Freitag 19:27 Uhr
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Und was sind die meisten hier ? gibt es da auch einen besonderen Namen ? Nur weil sie euch Infos bringen, die jeder selber einsehen kann, wenn er 5 Minuten sich informiert ? Mich stören halt die Prognosen, die oft falsch liegen… wenn sich Menschen Mühe geben … total toll… aber dann Ball flach halten und nicht den Börsenguru spielen, nur weil man hier Texte hineinfügt

Sagt der Börsen Guru! Du bist echt nen Kunde!
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Nutzername_123, Freitag 18:34 Uhr
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Kohlmeise hat heute gewonnen. EsGehtVoran ist der heutige Verlierer.
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