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September 22, 2026 9:36 AM Sovereign AI Isn’t so Sovereign: Meta’s Llama Powers 38% of Adapted Models by Anusuya Lahiri Benzinga Editor Rankings give you vital metrics on any stock – anytime. Meta Platforms Inc. (NASDAQ:META) has emerged as the leading foundation for sovereign artificial intelligence models built on foreign open-source technology, according to new research from Counterpoint Research. Meta’s Llama Leads Sovereign AI Models Counterpoint found that 56% of the sovereign large language models it tracks are adapted models, meaning they are fine-tuned versions of existing open-source models. The remaining 44% are foundational models trained on native data. Meta’s Llama accounts for 38% of adapted sovereign LLMs, making it the most widely used foreign base-model family. Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. (NYSE:BABA)-backed Qwen follows with a 20% share, while France’s Mistral holds 19%. Counterpoint evaluated more than 170 models across more than 55 countries as part of its H1 2026 Sovereign AI LLM Index. The firm said Llama was the dominant base model across every region covered by the research. Counterpoint Research Director Marc Einstein said sovereign AI ultimately centers on control and strategic autonomy, but that independence exists on a spectrum. “A slight majority of ‘sovereign’ LLMs are fine-tuned on open-source foreign bases, so true autonomy is still the exception,” Einstein said. He added that countries are increasingly moving toward foundational models built from scratch using domestic data. Counterpoint said Qwen is gaining adoption across Central and Eastern Europe, Asia-Pacific and Africa, helped by its multilingual capabilities. Mistral, meanwhile, has gained traction in Europe, Asia-Pacific and the Middle East through partnerships including Abu Dhabi-based G42. The research also points to growing use of other foundations, including Alphabet Inc.’s (NASDAQ:GOOGL) (NASDAQ:GOOG) Gemma, NVIDIA Corp. (NASDAQ:NVDA) Nemotron and DeepSeek, as countries diversify their AI technology stacks and reduce dependence on a single provider.

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BABA Stock Spikes Overnight: Alibaba Takes On Nvidia With China's Most Powerful AI Chip Yet Yuvraj Malik Tue, September 22, 2026 at 6:49 AM GMT+2 The Zhenwu V900 delivers three times the performance of Alibaba's previous-generation accelerator. Huawei and several other Chinese chipmakers are developing alternatives to Nvidia's AI hardware. Alibaba is pairing its chip development with billions of dollars in AI infrastructure investment. U.S.-listed shares of Alibaba Group Holding rose more than 2% in overnight trading late Monday after the Chinese tech giant unveiled a new AI accelerator that it says is China's most powerful AI chip yet, intensifying competition with Nvidia as Beijing pushes to build a domestic alternative to U.S. technology. The company's T-Head semiconductor unit introduced the Zhenwu V900, which Alibaba CEO Eddie Wu said delivers three times the performance of its predecessor. The accelerator can be deployed in clusters of up to 500,000 chips to support the training of large, frontier AI models. Reuters reported that the chip is expected to enter mass production in early 2027. Nvidia Faces Growing Chinese Competition The launch adds another potential challenge for Nvidia, whose high-end AI accelerators have become the industry standard for training and running advanced models but face export controls in China. NVDA stock was marginally higher in overnight trading late Monday. Alibaba is simultaneously expanding its computing infrastructure, targeting more than 20 gigawatts of global data-center capacity by 2032. The company has committed more than $53 billion to AI capabilities over three years and plans to update its AI chip lineup annually.

Alibaba-Chef zufolge ist der neue Zhenwu V900 Chinas leistungsstärkster KI-Chip. Das Modell erreicht die 3-fache Leistung seines Vorgängers.

Alibaba Stock Price Rises in Pre-Market – Goldman Sachs Sees “Cloud Growth as a Bright Spot” Shalu Saraf Sep 17, 2026, 01:17 PM Alibaba Group Holdingstock inched higher in Thursday’s pre-market trading after falling 1.89% on Wednesday. In a new report today, Goldman Sachs Ronald Keung maintained its Buy rating on Alibaba while lowering its price target to $177 from $186. The lower price target reflects dilution from Alibaba’s recently completed HK$80 billion equity raising. Keung said Alibaba’s latest results included several positive developments. He called cloud growth a “bright spot” and said the company has greater certainty around returns on invested capital despite higher spending. The analyst also expects Alibaba’s earnings growth to improve from the September quarter. He also expects quick-commerce losses to narrow, with the business reaching profitability by FY29. Goldman Sachs Sees Faster Cloud Growth for Alibaba Goldman Sachs raised its cloud growth estimates for Alibaba. The firm now expects cloud revenue growth of 53% in the September quarter, 55% in December, and 55% in March 2027. Those estimates are up from its previous forecasts of 50%, 52%, and 52%, respectively. Keung cited strong demand for GPU-as-a-Service and Model-as-a-Service (MaaS). Goldman Sachs expects Alibaba to remain a major player in China’s AI and cloud market. The firm sees demand for AI services helping drive higher cloud sales. The firm also expects Alibaba’s quick-commerce losses to halve in FY27 and FY28. Keung expects the business to reach profitability by FY29. Meanwhile, Keung expects Alibaba’s earnings per share to grow by 58% in FY27 and 27% in FY28. He expects the stronger pace of growth to begin in the September quarter.

OpenAI and Anthropic's Chinese Rivals Face a Revenue Reality Check Moz Farooque ACCA Fri, September 18, 2026 at 9:33 PM GMT+2 2 min read This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Chinese artificial-intelligence models may be cheaper to run, but they are generating only a fraction of the revenue produced by U.S. leaders OpenAI and Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) backed Anthropic, according to estimates from Rhodium Group. All Chinese AI models combined generate roughly 10% of the revenue reported by OpenAI and Anthropic, highlighting a widening gap between model adoption, monetization and access to capital. Rhodium estimated DeepSeek's annual recurring revenue at about $500 million, MiniMax at $800 million and Moonshot at $1 billion. Z.ai recently told investors its ARR had reached $1.8 billion, while ByteDance was estimated at roughly $4 billion and Alibaba (NYSE:BABA) at $2.4 billion. Those numbers remain far below OpenAI's reported $40 billion annual revenue run rate and Anthropic's $65 billion. The valuation gap is even more striking. Rhodium estimated Moonshot trades at roughly 50 times revenue and DeepSeek at around 163 times, compared with about 34 times for OpenAI and 21 times for Anthropic. Valuations relative to revenue appear exorbitant for Moonshot and DeepSeek at present, the report said. That comes despite Chinese models often carrying materially lower task costs than leading U.S. systems. Investors Takeaway The key issue is whether lower pricing can eventually translate into enough scale to close the monetization gap. Chinese AI labs may have an advantage on cost, but cheaper inference does not automatically produce stronger economics. OpenAI and Anthropic currently appear to have much greater ability to convert enterprise and consumer demand into recurring revenue. That matters because frontier AI remains extremely capital intensive. The financing gap means it will be far more difficult for Chinese frontier AI labs to scale sustainably, Rhodium partner Logan Wright said. For investors, that creates a sharp distinction between technical competitiveness and financial durability. DeepSeek, Moonshot and other Chinese developers may continue to pressure U.S. rivals on pricing and model efficiency, but unless revenue catches up, high private valuations could become harder to justify. The broader takeaway is that the AI race is increasingly becoming a contest not just over model quality, but over who can fund infrastructure, attract paying customers and monetize at scale. finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/artic...

Alibaba ist ein schwieriger Fall, da sie kurzfristige Gewinne für beschleunigte Investitionen opfern. Zudem haben sie mit demselben Ziel eine Aktienemission durchgeführt. Ich würde raten, die Beurteilung größtenteils den professionellen Analysten (und insbesondere den großen Brokerhäusern) zu überlassen; diese sind nahezu einhellig begeistert.

Das gleiche bei SAP. Am besten komplett ignorieren.

September 18, 2026 3:50 AM2 min read US Government Website Quietly Used Alibaba’s Qwen AI Amid FBI Accusations of China Firm Imitating Anthropic: Report by Ravikash Bakolia Benzinga Editor The Federal Register’s website used an AI model from Chinese tech giant Alibaba Group Holding Ltd (NYSE:BABA), allowing users to search ​for proposed federal rules. This occurred despite the FBI previously accusing the company of “malicious” imitation of American AI lab Anthropic‘s AI models, according to a report. What Happened at Federal ‌Register? The website’s search feature was using the Chinese company’s AI model Qwen on Wednesday, besides other search choices, Reuters reported. However, the Qwen-backed search was removed on Wednesday when social media posts started to circulate regarding it. The news outlet had viewed screenshots and an archived version of the website’s ​source code. It was not known when the search tool using Qwen was deployed by the website, which comes under the National Archives.

Ehrlich gesagt frage ich mich langsam, was genau Dein Ziel hier ist. In einem Alibaba-Forum bei praktisch jedem Beitrag nur negativ aufzuschlagen und Dein obligatorisches ⛷️ darunterzusetzen, bringt außer Aufmerksamkeit eigentlich niemandem etwas. Wir wissen alle, dass die aktuelle BABA-Situation nervt. Wenn Du eine negative Einschätzung hast: gerne – aber dann bitte mit Argumenten und Fakten statt immer nur mit Deinem Skifahrer-Emoji. Wobei… der Winter steht ja tatsächlich bald vor der Tür. 😄 Dann hast Du zumindest endlich wieder einen sinnvollen Einsatz für Dein ⛷️ gefunden. Bis dahin könntest Du es ja vielleicht mal mit einem konstruktiven Beitrag versuchen. 😉