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runkle6
runkle6, 14.11.2025 8:27 Uhr
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ich sag ja, eure eifons sind schuld
runkle6
runkle6, 14.11.2025 8:26 Uhr
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Lieber runkle. Du lernst es auch nicht oder ? 😉😅 Für Handys ist es besser den link oben zu setzen damit man ihn öffnen kann und besser wäre es den Text gleich übersetzt zu posten.

bei mir gehts ...
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blindeye, 14.11.2025 8:19 Uhr
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Macht sich eigentlich noch jemand Gedanken um eine SP Aufnahme? 😂
Grey_trade
Grey_trade, 14.11.2025 8:13 Uhr
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I keep reading a lot of nonsense about $BTC extended price weakness while what’s happening is very simple: a large crowd of institutional traders were long $BTC and short BTC treasury companies like $MSTR. This was a MATHEMATICAL ARBITRAGE. Now that the arbitrage isn’t there anymore, in order to close this trade and cash in the profits, the opposite flow is ongoing: sell $BTC and buy the likes of $MSTR. However since there were not enough shares of $MSTR to borrow and short and nobody wanted to take such a big outright risk of being squeezed, most of the $MSTR shorts were put in place using derivatives. Who do you think was taking the opposite side of all those levered ETF using derivatives and promising to track 2x, 3x or even 4x or $MSTR returns? Of course, $MSTR shorts. Since those contracts tend not to involve settlement of shares but only cash settlements, you will see little buying pressure on $MSTR as a result even if short positions are being closed. Till all these positions aren’t off, the market will remain heavy on the downside. However those betting on $MSTR being liquidated and going bust need to be careful because similar to what happened to GBTC years ago, if MSTR discount vs NAV starts to be significant then there will be another arbitrage opportunity, this time in the other direction. Those with open short positions on $MSTR by then will face a big risk of being steamrolled. Since most of the profits from exploiting the original arbitrage are going to traditional finance hedge funds, this has been effectively extracting liquidity from the crypto ecosystem impacting all assets beyond $BTC, especially altcoins that are the most sensitive to liquidity flows. If you want to know what happens next to $BTC, a good guide will be looking at what happened once the $GBTC premium normalised to zero after crashing to -40% in the aftermath of 3AC implosion I stand behind what I said when BTC was at 25k$, 50k$, 75k$ and beyond: till central banks money printing carries on, the nominal price of assets with scarcity of supply will be lifted higher in the long term. This is why I am long gold, silver and BTC. The most hilarious thing for me is seeing people who love BTC using arguments against gold that people who love gold use against BTC while both have objectively a very similar structure from an investment perspective (if you hold physical gold or if you have your BTC in a cold storage to be precise) Hope this posts helps many, especially those in the #CryptoMarket 🙏🏻 https://x.com/DarioCpx/status/1989173763037168063?t=wtrJHsPqj40UsB6EvR6MCQ&s=19

Lieber runkle. Du lernst es auch nicht oder ? 😉😅 Für Handys ist es besser den link oben zu setzen damit man ihn öffnen kann und besser wäre es den Text gleich übersetzt zu posten.
Grey_trade
Grey_trade, 14.11.2025 8:10 Uhr
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hab ne Linie gezogen bei 05.08.24, 06.09. 24, 07/09.04.25. Verläuft dann etwa bis 96-97k aktuell. alles in der Tageskerze

Ok, also nix berechnetes oder ein ganz bestimmtes Hoch/Tief. Macht ja nix wollte es nur wissen
Tradi444
Tradi444, 14.11.2025 8:08 Uhr
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I keep reading a lot of nonsense about $BTC extended price weakness while what’s happening is very simple: a large crowd of institutional traders were long $BTC and short BTC treasury companies like $MSTR. This was a MATHEMATICAL ARBITRAGE. Now that the arbitrage isn’t there anymore, in order to close this trade and cash in the profits, the opposite flow is ongoing: sell $BTC and buy the likes of $MSTR. However since there were not enough shares of $MSTR to borrow and short and nobody wanted to take such a big outright risk of being squeezed, most of the $MSTR shorts were put in place using derivatives. Who do you think was taking the opposite side of all those levered ETF using derivatives and promising to track 2x, 3x or even 4x or $MSTR returns? Of course, $MSTR shorts. Since those contracts tend not to involve settlement of shares but only cash settlements, you will see little buying pressure on $MSTR as a result even if short positions are being closed. Till all these positions aren’t off, the market will remain heavy on the downside. However those betting on $MSTR being liquidated and going bust need to be careful because similar to what happened to GBTC years ago, if MSTR discount vs NAV starts to be significant then there will be another arbitrage opportunity, this time in the other direction. Those with open short positions on $MSTR by then will face a big risk of being steamrolled. Since most of the profits from exploiting the original arbitrage are going to traditional finance hedge funds, this has been effectively extracting liquidity from the crypto ecosystem impacting all assets beyond $BTC, especially altcoins that are the most sensitive to liquidity flows. If you want to know what happens next to $BTC, a good guide will be looking at what happened once the $GBTC premium normalised to zero after crashing to -40% in the aftermath of 3AC implosion I stand behind what I said when BTC was at 25k$, 50k$, 75k$ and beyond: till central banks money printing carries on, the nominal price of assets with scarcity of supply will be lifted higher in the long term. This is why I am long gold, silver and BTC. The most hilarious thing for me is seeing people who love BTC using arguments against gold that people who love gold use against BTC while both have objectively a very similar structure from an investment perspective (if you hold physical gold or if you have your BTC in a cold storage to be precise) Hope this posts helps many, especially those in the #CryptoMarket 🙏🏻 https://x.com/DarioCpx/status/1989173763037168063?t=wtrJHsPqj40UsB6EvR6MCQ&s=19

Wenn MSTR irgendwann mit deutlichem Abschlag zum NAV handelt, entsteht ein neuer arbitragefähiger Long-Trade – und bestehende Shorts könnten „überrollt“ werden (analog zur GBTC-Story). 🙃
wolli1976
wolli1976, 14.11.2025 8:02 Uhr
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Hier mal die Zielzonen des Bitcoin, denke aber nicht das es unter 92k$ fällt. In dem Fall sehen wir noch ganz andere Kurse. Aktuell fängt er sich wieder etwas. https://de.tradingview.com/x/NWiuDjgK
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blindeye, 14.11.2025 8:00 Uhr
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I keep reading a lot of nonsense about $BTC extended price weakness while what’s happening is very simple: a large crowd of institutional traders were long $BTC and short BTC treasury companies like $MSTR. This was a MATHEMATICAL ARBITRAGE. Now that the arbitrage isn’t there anymore, in order to close this trade and cash in the profits, the opposite flow is ongoing: sell $BTC and buy the likes of $MSTR. However since there were not enough shares of $MSTR to borrow and short and nobody wanted to take such a big outright risk of being squeezed, most of the $MSTR shorts were put in place using derivatives. Who do you think was taking the opposite side of all those levered ETF using derivatives and promising to track 2x, 3x or even 4x or $MSTR returns? Of course, $MSTR shorts. Since those contracts tend not to involve settlement of shares but only cash settlements, you will see little buying pressure on $MSTR as a result even if short positions are being closed. Till all these positions aren’t off, the market will remain heavy on the downside. However those betting on $MSTR being liquidated and going bust need to be careful because similar to what happened to GBTC years ago, if MSTR discount vs NAV starts to be significant then there will be another arbitrage opportunity, this time in the other direction. Those with open short positions on $MSTR by then will face a big risk of being steamrolled. Since most of the profits from exploiting the original arbitrage are going to traditional finance hedge funds, this has been effectively extracting liquidity from the crypto ecosystem impacting all assets beyond $BTC, especially altcoins that are the most sensitive to liquidity flows. If you want to know what happens next to $BTC, a good guide will be looking at what happened once the $GBTC premium normalised to zero after crashing to -40% in the aftermath of 3AC implosion I stand behind what I said when BTC was at 25k$, 50k$, 75k$ and beyond: till central banks money printing carries on, the nominal price of assets with scarcity of supply will be lifted higher in the long term. This is why I am long gold, silver and BTC. The most hilarious thing for me is seeing people who love BTC using arguments against gold that people who love gold use against BTC while both have objectively a very similar structure from an investment perspective (if you hold physical gold or if you have your BTC in a cold storage to be precise) Hope this posts helps many, especially those in the #CryptoMarket 🙏🏻 https://x.com/DarioCpx/status/1989173763037168063?t=wtrJHsPqj40UsB6EvR6MCQ&s=19

interessante Sichtweise
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Lupin8484, 14.11.2025 7:53 Uhr
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Wie weit fällt denn Bitcoin jetzt im Bärenmarkt? Und wann wäre der in etwa zuende?
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blindeye, 14.11.2025 7:46 Uhr
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Bitcoin bei 96k, ob die erste Zielzone bei 200$ hält, also ca. 171€, ist fraglich. Die nächste wäre bei 156$?

Sehe keinen Grund warum 200 halten sollten. Beim aktuellen Tempo sehen wir die 200 Dollar schon bevor die Amis um 10 Uhr einsteigen
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blindeye, 14.11.2025 7:37 Uhr
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Wo seht ihr da ne Unterstützung? Auf welchen Kerzen /Zeiteinheit oder whatever basierend?

hab ne Linie gezogen bei 05.08.24, 06.09. 24, 07/09.04.25. Verläuft dann etwa bis 96-97k aktuell. alles in der Tageskerze
runkle6
runkle6, 14.11.2025 7:31 Uhr
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I keep reading a lot of nonsense about $BTC extended price weakness while what’s happening is very simple: a large crowd of institutional traders were long $BTC and short BTC treasury companies like $MSTR. This was a MATHEMATICAL ARBITRAGE. Now that the arbitrage isn’t there anymore, in order to close this trade and cash in the profits, the opposite flow is ongoing: sell $BTC and buy the likes of $MSTR. However since there were not enough shares of $MSTR to borrow and short and nobody wanted to take such a big outright risk of being squeezed, most of the $MSTR shorts were put in place using derivatives. Who do you think was taking the opposite side of all those levered ETF using derivatives and promising to track 2x, 3x or even 4x or $MSTR returns? Of course, $MSTR shorts. Since those contracts tend not to involve settlement of shares but only cash settlements, you will see little buying pressure on $MSTR as a result even if short positions are being closed. Till all these positions aren’t off, the market will remain heavy on the downside. However those betting on $MSTR being liquidated and going bust need to be careful because similar to what happened to GBTC years ago, if MSTR discount vs NAV starts to be significant then there will be another arbitrage opportunity, this time in the other direction. Those with open short positions on $MSTR by then will face a big risk of being steamrolled. Since most of the profits from exploiting the original arbitrage are going to traditional finance hedge funds, this has been effectively extracting liquidity from the crypto ecosystem impacting all assets beyond $BTC, especially altcoins that are the most sensitive to liquidity flows. If you want to know what happens next to $BTC, a good guide will be looking at what happened once the $GBTC premium normalised to zero after crashing to -40% in the aftermath of 3AC implosion I stand behind what I said when BTC was at 25k$, 50k$, 75k$ and beyond: till central banks money printing carries on, the nominal price of assets with scarcity of supply will be lifted higher in the long term. This is why I am long gold, silver and BTC. The most hilarious thing for me is seeing people who love BTC using arguments against gold that people who love gold use against BTC while both have objectively a very similar structure from an investment perspective (if you hold physical gold or if you have your BTC in a cold storage to be precise) Hope this posts helps many, especially those in the #CryptoMarket 🙏🏻 https://x.com/DarioCpx/status/1989173763037168063?t=wtrJHsPqj40UsB6EvR6MCQ&s=19
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Flovollgas1765, 14.11.2025 7:30 Uhr
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Bitcoin bei 96k, ob die erste Zielzone bei 200$ hält, also ca. 171€, ist fraglich. Die nächste wäre bei 156$?

156
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Flovollgas1765, 14.11.2025 7:29 Uhr
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Heute werden es nochmal 5-6 % Minus bei MSTR leider.. Bitcoin hat nicht gehalten. Klar wenn man nur Schlechtes liest über Bitcoin in den Medien..

🫣
wolli1976
wolli1976, 14.11.2025 7:27 Uhr
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Bitcoin bei 96k, ob die erste Zielzone bei 200$ hält, also ca. 171€, ist fraglich. Die nächste wäre bei 156$?
Grey_trade
Grey_trade, 14.11.2025 7:22 Uhr
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Ich seh da nix und nen Fibo würd ich nen Monat vorher ziehen August24 Tief - 1 Midtop 73878 dann wär Fib 1,618 bei 95118 Na ist auch egal jeder hat seine eigene Einstellung des Fibos. Mein Beispiel war jetzt logarythmisch Die Frage war auch eher an die beiden vorher gerichtet
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